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The Norden does look pretty good.  That is on my list as well.

I get the point about the 850GSA vs 1250GS - by the time I'm done farting around with the 850 I'll be really close to 1250 money.

The only thing that sucks for me and a 1250 is the Insurance here in Ontario - $2,500 CAD per year for a new rider even at 52 and with a clean driving record.

850's are about $1,400 - under 750CC less than $800.
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*Originally Posted by richardbd [+]
Agree re. Norden. Hope I havenít made a mistake buying and fitting out the 850!
Nope you haven't , I ll be keeping my GS but I might px the 701 for the Norden . Ihope my Mrs doesn't read this .
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*Originally Posted by Huge701 [+]
No need to  be sorry Richard I bought the 850gs for similar reasons as you state. I don't plan on going to far only mainland Europe as soon as this crap is nearly over.
Personally the GSA isn't for me but I wouldn't knock anyone for buying one , if the choice was between the GSA and the 1250 money no object well I cant see why anyone would unless they hate flat twins.
Another story would be an orange one  wooooo hoooo  "ducks in anticipation"   :087:
I am a bit of a KTM fan boy.
ps great bikes  :164: Roll on the Norden ( if........)  :164:

Agree re. Norden. Hope I havenít made a mistake buying and fitting out the 850!
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No need to  be sorry Richard I bought the 850gs for similar reasons as you state. I don't plan on going to far only mainland Europe as soon as this crap is nearly over.
Personally the GSA isn't for me but I wouldn't knock anyone for buying one , if the choice was between the GSA and the 1250 money no object well I cant see why anyone would unless they hate flat twins.
Another story would be an orange one  wooooo hoooo  "ducks in anticipation"   :087:
I am a bit of a KTM fan boy.
ps great bikes  :164: Roll on the Norden ( if........)  :164:
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*Originally Posted by Huge701 [+]
100% Agree with RIchardbd
it sounds like you would be wise to try the big brother as the weight on those although heavier they definitely don't feel it as it is low down .
if you are set on the 850 but worried why not just take it out for a test ride ( personally if I was you I would take both out .)
To answer your question though yes they are a bit top heavy but not as bad as you might think ,  the 850 will never be a low C of G bike.

All depends on how you plan to use the bike.  I bought my 850 to use as a true dual-sport/overlanding bike and I view it as very fit for purpose.  It has the benefits of being lighter, simpler and cheaper :-) However, neither 850GS nor 850GSA is a patch on the 1200/1250 as a road bike - not even close, in any way, in any world, never, ever.

Further, the 850GSA is a total mystery to me.  Itís an inferior road bike to any 1200/1250 in every way you can think of but worse than that, itís an inferior dual-sport bike to a simple 850GS.  It weighs so much and all the weight is in the wrong place.

The extra fuel capacity (like the 1200/1250GSA) is a total red herring.  I was on a ride from London to Beijing (13,000 miles, including about 3,000 miles off-road) in 2019.  In all those miles, not one bike ever needed fuel from anywhere other than a petrol station.  You simply donít need to ride a mobile gas station.

Of all the bikes on that trip, the one nobody quite got was the 850GSA. That included the owner, who sold it as soon as he got home to Sweden.

Of course, bike choice is deeply personal, especially after weíve made a purchase and Iím sure lots of bods are having some great times on their 850GSAs.  Iíd be surprised if many people buy a second one thoughÖ

 :431: :431:



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*Originally Posted by richardbd [+]
If youíre worried about the top-heavy weight of an 850 GSA, rather than trying to fix it through complicated adaptations, just take the easy solution.

Buy a 1200/1250 GS insteadÖ
100% Agree with RIchardbd
it sounds like you would be wise to try the big brother as the weight on those although heavier they definitely don't feel it as it is low down .
if you are set on the 850 but worried why not just take it out for a test ride ( personally if I was you I would take both out .)
To answer your question though yes they are a bit top heavy but not as bad as you might think ,  the 850 will never be a low C of G bike.
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If youíre worried about the top-heavy weight of an 850 GSA, rather than trying to fix it through complicated adaptations, just take the easy solution.

Buy a 1200/1250 GS insteadÖ
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I have been riding an F850GSA since March of 2019, it is top heavy stopped, but become light as soon as the wheel start turning.  If you are going to use this bike as it is intended you are going to be adding weight not removing it with boxes or soft bag as this is a go somewhere bike

  This is mine getting ready for a week on the Idaho Back Country discovery route.   :305:
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*Originally Posted by biker01red [+]
Has anyone tried this touring windscreen ???  Your thoughts ??? Any information is appreciated...

I'm using it on my 850GSA.
As I switch back and forth between the short Rally screen during the warmer months and the larger TT screen at spring and fall I also got an extra kit of grommets and the flanged tubes from BMW, (didn't cost much).

So how do I like it?

The wind and weather protection has been improved. At 6ft tall the screen does not obstruct the forward visibility. The  screen causes a bit of turbulence, but it is a noise only issue, I experience no annoying buffeting, and the noise is not a big deal as I use earplugs.

All in all I'm happy with the screen. It looks good and offers the improved protection that I was looking for.
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Thanks for the replies.

I'm sure I would get used to it but can I make it better so it feels nicer?

I like modifying things so I am curious about other changes that can take weight off the top.

How much do the side Luggage racks weigh?  Pillion pegs - what do they weigh?  Is the rack on the tail a pig?  Are there other lighter (and black) solutions?

What about things like handlebars (I might want higher ones anyways)?  Are OEM really heavy and are aftermarket seats lighter?

Where else is the weight coming from on the bike up high?

Thanks

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