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Offline talh

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Re: Hiding a Spare Key
« Reply #10 on: December 10, 2020, 10:08:50 PM »
*Originally Posted by doebag [+]
My personal view is the whole keyless entry thing is a solution looking for a problem. I had it on a previous 1400GTR, and deliberately did not specify it on my 850GS.

I think it depends on the implementation. I have keyless ride on my Ducati XDiavel, and it absolutely sucks. Works 50% of the time. I think Ducati knew that, so I can start the motorcycle with a pin code and no key.
On the BMW it works perfectly and flawlessly, so I'm happy with it.

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Re: Hiding a Spare Key
« Reply #11 on: December 10, 2020, 10:42:46 PM »
So... What oil is best for the bikes with keyless ride?  :164:
I don't know where we are... but I have been lost here before...

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Re: Hiding a Spare Key
« Reply #12 on: December 11, 2020, 11:38:39 AM »
*Originally Posted by SnoDrtRider [+]
So... What oil is best for the bikes with keyless ride?  :164:

Naughty  :182: :182:

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Re: Hiding a Spare Key
« Reply #13 on: December 11, 2020, 12:14:41 PM »
*Originally Posted by SnoDrtRider [+]
So... What oil is best for the bikes with keyless ride?  :164:

If its keyless, then any oil you like, apart from those from this supplier
https://keyoils.com/

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Re: Hiding a Spare Key
« Reply #14 on: December 11, 2020, 05:34:22 PM »
I love keyless ride, especially in winter. I used to carry a thermos with hot water to defrost my ignition lock. So to be able to start and stop a bike without a key is a big plus. Just leave the cases unlocked and make sure they're empty. Or take them off but thats too much of a hassle for me.

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Re: Hiding a Spare Key
« Reply #15 on: January 03, 2021, 02:21:50 AM »
I just picked up a used 2019 850GS Adventure Rallye at the beginning of December.  Took it out a couple of weeks ago when the temps were hovering around 30.  Stopped the bike to change gloves after about 45 mins, and the bike would not start.  After about 15 mins of me looking for a spare battery for the fob, the bike powered up and started.  Must've just been cold.   :172:  Really wish I had the spare key with me that day. 
« Last Edit: January 03, 2021, 02:22:24 AM by MudFoot »
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Re: Hiding a Spare Key
« Reply #16 on: January 03, 2021, 03:43:08 AM »
Just FYI, you can start the bike with the fob even if the battery is dead. Simply place it close (1 inch) away from the antenna. On my F750 it is under the seat and can be triggered by holding the fob/spare under the rear fender. I'm assuming it's the same on the 850.


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Re: Hiding a Spare Key
« Reply #17 on: January 03, 2021, 03:56:59 PM »
Hey talh,
That's what I thought too.  Holding the fob under the rear fender didn't allow the bike to power up.  I changed the battery when I got home, and road the bike in some pretty cold weather the following week with no problems. A quick internet search returned that a low battery in the fob will give you problems in cold weather.
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Re: Hiding a Spare Key
« Reply #18 on: January 03, 2021, 06:11:12 PM »
That makes sense, cold affects batteries. You may want to practice/find out how to start the bike with a passive fob. Perhaps take off the seat and place it directly in the antenna with no battery. Just in case, you know.

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Re: Hiding a Spare Key
« Reply #19 on: January 12, 2021, 12:32:21 PM »
*Originally Posted by doebag [+]
My personal view is the whole keyless entry thing is a solution looking for a problem. I had it on a previous 1400GTR, and deliberately did not specify it on my 850GS.

Inclined to agree with you. However the bike I bought already had it on. My 'solution' is to put the fob around my neck on a lanyard. The plastic key stays in my wallet and I got a non-chip metal key cut for luggage and sat nav locks.